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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
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Posted - 2014.10.26 14:12:32 -
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I think the more fun idea that I've seen posted is to just remove CONCORD, for one day, with absolutely zero warning.
It'd be interesting to see who is, or who is not paying attention to the various news outlets of the game, and learns the hard way instead.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
10287
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Posted - 2014.10.26 18:11:50 -
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Black Panpher wrote:Zen Guerrilla wrote:The thing most of the anti-carebear brigades do not get is this:
You can not force a carebear into lowsec/nullsec or even WHs. You will simply force him out of the game.
I don't understand what the obsession is with making highsec less safe. They're playing a different game there. Let em have it. It's not like they're hurting anyone. This ^
My rebuttal is this.
If you are the kind of "player" who will quit the game if your near-absolute safety is lowered, you are not wanted in EVE. Pretty much every single part of this game has eaten a nerf over the course of EVE's history for the sake of the health of the game. But you say you should be immune to this, or you'll quit? Gtfo with that entitled bullshit. That's not reasonable, that's just childish and selfish.
Yes, highsec will be made less safe eventually. Yes, you lot will actually have to put some tiny amount of effort into defending yourselves.
If that's a deal breaker for you, if actually playing the game is out of the question in your mind, then just quit right now. You aren't contributing anything anyway, beyond your own selfish little niche.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
10287
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Posted - 2014.10.26 18:29:11 -
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Syn Shi wrote:
My rebuttal is this.
How dare someone play Eve the way they want to and not want to be forced into playing the way you want them to.
No one is saying mining shouldn't exist, or misioning, or ship spinning or pretending to be a pretty unicorn princess. We are saying that you don't get to hold the game hostage to benefit yourself, when such a thing comes at the detriment of game balance.
If you think "fit a tank" somehow means "forcing" you to play the way you don't want to, you won't be missed when you quit. If you think having to bother defending yourself is not the way you want to play, you won't be missed when you quit.
If losing a little bit of the almost perfect safety you currently have is a deal breaker, then you do not belong here. Be gone.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
10287
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Posted - 2014.10.26 18:51:12 -
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Syn Shi wrote:
And forcing players who don't want to pvp, to pvp, isn't holding another payer hostage to benefit you?
No, because that's what EVE is. I can't count how many Dev statements I have seen that state unequivocally that EVE is a PvP game first, last, and always.
You people seem to think that Super Mario is a spelunking game. It's not, but you're welcome to play it like that. What you aren't welcome to is to demand that Nintendo change Super Mario to cater to your specific misuse of the game.
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Seems to me someone just wants their fun at the expense of someone else's fun.
That's what non consensual PvP is, after all. It's a cornerstone of EVE Online, as stated by the developers many times.
You seem to think that it should stop existing. You're wrong.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
10290
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Posted - 2014.10.26 19:37:21 -
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Syn Shi wrote:
This is nothing more than someone wanting to grief people who make the choice not to pvp. Nothing more.
PvP is not griefing. Whether you agreed to it or not. CCP strictly defines griefing, and it doesn't fit what you seem to be calling it.
Their "choice" does not matter. PvP belongs everywhere in EVE, because EVE is a PvP game.
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And for the record....all you null-bears becoming friends in nullsec tells a different story.
I live in highsec, numbskull. But thanks for the obvious strawman, I didn't think you had a real argument anyway.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
10291
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Posted - 2014.10.26 19:43:55 -
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Syn Shi wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Syn Shi wrote:
This is nothing more than someone wanting to grief people who make the choice not to pvp. Nothing more.
PvP is not griefing. Whether you agreed to it or not. CCP strictly defines griefing, and it doesn't fit what you seem to be calling it. Their "choice" does not matter. PvP belongs everywhere in EVE, because EVE is a PvP game. Quote:
And for the record....all you null-bears becoming friends in nullsec tells a different story.
I live in highsec, numbskull. But thanks for the obvious strawman, I didn't think you had a real argument anyway. Of course you do.
Yes, I do have a real argument. I was stating that you do not, hence your strawman. A long time ago I was a line member in a nullsec alliance, but after the Great War resulted in my being homeless I have wandered about in a period of extended vagrancy. (not in real life, the EVE Great War)
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
10291
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Posted - 2014.10.26 19:45:03 -
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Although it should have been obvious to me that you didn't have a real argument anyway, given that you are posting as a worthless NPC alt.
Seems it's time to renew the "Ban NPC corps from posting in GD" movement again.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
10312
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Posted - 2014.10.27 01:10:55 -
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Zappity wrote:
Can someone link me some of these statements?
Here's a recent one.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4964192#post4964192
That sums it up pretty nicely. Upon reading it, I called it the "Falcon Punch".
For a more detailed summary, I suggest this delightful minerbumping article.
http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/08/falcon-punch-ccp-fights-for-its-soul.html
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
10312
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Posted - 2014.10.27 01:15:21 -
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If you want an older source, here is a direct quote from the game's FAQ:
New Pilot FAQ wrote:
5.3 SOME PLAYER JUST SHOT ME; IS THAT ALLOWED?
In EVE Online, any player may attack any other player if they choose to, no
matter where they happen to be. This is because EVE Online is essentially
a PvP (Player versus Player) game at its core.
Emphasis mine, of course.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
10321
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Posted - 2014.10.27 09:59:55 -
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Elsa Hayes wrote:
Oh the worthless NPC alt "argument", well your posting char is just as worthless for someone who talks big about pvp your killboard records are certainly lacking which would suggest a lot out of your behind talking.
Oh, I've always been upfront about that. This character has been little more than a locator and forum alt for a long while now. Hell he mostly flies logi for his corp.
I've been doxxed and had my life threatened by carebear scum before, so opsec is something I take quite seriously.
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So by your own argumentation your very own opinion is worthless as well
No. Because I've never really said anything about killboards. You made that leap yourself.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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